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		<title>Comment on Documentum, Not Going Away Without a Fight by Pie</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2012/05/25/documentum-not-going-away-without-a-fight/#comment-50197</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 11:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim, thanks for bringing it up. I didn&#039;t mention it because a) I don&#039;t think EMC creating solutions impacts their future either way long-term and b) My post was already too long.

I&#039;m a big fan of enabling partner solutions and trying to make it easy to create and maintain them with minimal code. I&#039;m not a big fan of software vendors creating these kinds of solutions because it can damage the partner ecosystem and the solutions may not get the resources to be updated and maintained. Your historical examples are spot on, though DCM lasted quite a few years as a viable option before wasting away.

Aside from showing love to some verticals, the solutions don&#039;t matter long-term. EMC&#039;s success won&#039;t be because of these solutions. After talking to a few partners, I don&#039;t think it will cripple the partner ecosystem either. They aren&#039;t doing a lot of them from appearances and at least one vendor I know is successfully competing against the solutions.

Obviously this will be something to watch. If they announce another 3-4 solutions this year, it&#039;ll be an item of concern. For now, let&#039;s watch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, thanks for bringing it up. I didn&#8217;t mention it because a) I don&#8217;t think EMC creating solutions impacts their future either way long-term and b) My post was already too long.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of enabling partner solutions and trying to make it easy to create and maintain them with minimal code. I&#8217;m not a big fan of software vendors creating these kinds of solutions because it can damage the partner ecosystem and the solutions may not get the resources to be updated and maintained. Your historical examples are spot on, though DCM lasted quite a few years as a viable option before wasting away.</p>
<p>Aside from showing love to some verticals, the solutions don&#8217;t matter long-term. EMC&#8217;s success won&#8217;t be because of these solutions. After talking to a few partners, I don&#8217;t think it will cripple the partner ecosystem either. They aren&#8217;t doing a lot of them from appearances and at least one vendor I know is successfully competing against the solutions.</p>
<p>Obviously this will be something to watch. If they announce another 3-4 solutions this year, it&#8217;ll be an item of concern. For now, let&#8217;s watch.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Documentum, Not Going Away Without a Fight by Pie</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2012/05/25/documentum-not-going-away-without-a-fight/#comment-50195</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 11:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is fairly correct. It isn&#039;t just the move, it is the market still caring about them after they make the move. I expect them all to have real cloud versions in four years but the market might not care if more native cloud apps can create the functionality needed first and capture the mindshare.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is fairly correct. It isn&#8217;t just the move, it is the market still caring about them after they make the move. I expect them all to have real cloud versions in four years but the market might not care if more native cloud apps can create the functionality needed first and capture the mindshare.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Documentum, Not Going Away Without a Fight by Gautam Desai</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2012/05/25/documentum-not-going-away-without-a-fight/#comment-50185</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gautam Desai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 07:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Martin T: One correction, the Life Sciences Solution Suite is certainly based on D2.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin T: One correction, the Life Sciences Solution Suite is certainly based on D2.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Documentum, Not Going Away Without a Fight by Martin T</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2012/05/25/documentum-not-going-away-without-a-fight/#comment-50180</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 02:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Pie - Great summary as ever.  They IIG folks made a big noise about providing &quot;productized solutions&quot; or applications referred to as products created by the professional services teams rather than engineering.  This included a move back into Life Sciences applications in addition to what is referred to as EPFM - an application for plants and facilities.

Certified Solutions from partners were were also applauded as one way IIG was going to succeed in the future.

The language used to describe these solutions became more earnest as the event went on reaching a crescendo during Jeetu&#039;s presentation where going the last mile to provide line of business apps was where IIG was heading.  Rick D also gave air time to the topic in his keynote.

IIGs / Documentum&#039;s  track record for maintaining applications is patchy at best, remember GXPharma and DC Manager?   Only last year IIG endorsed CSC First Docs as the pefered choice for drug trail submissions and this year IIG are back with a new offering of their own.  OpenText made the same noises about becoming a solutions provider few years ago and appear to have gone quiet.  

If customers are asking for applications not customizations (OK configurations these days) to solve a business problem are IIG the right people to provide a whole range of industry vertical applications.

Building, versioning and supporting line of business application products is a world apart from being a great platform provider. Is the Professional Services team the right place to build and maintain applications, will partners conitinue to invest in building certified solutions on Documentum if there is a danger that IIG will compete and whether or not of whether this solution strategy will prevail in the long term all remains to be seen. 

The problems are for IIG are already showing as the first of these productized services solutions is based neither on x/cp or D2 which means a complete re-write to keep up with the platform let alone adding new functionality.

I was surprised you didn&#039;t mention this in your, excellent as usual. summing up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pie &#8211; Great summary as ever.  They IIG folks made a big noise about providing &#8220;productized solutions&#8221; or applications referred to as products created by the professional services teams rather than engineering.  This included a move back into Life Sciences applications in addition to what is referred to as EPFM &#8211; an application for plants and facilities.</p>
<p>Certified Solutions from partners were were also applauded as one way IIG was going to succeed in the future.</p>
<p>The language used to describe these solutions became more earnest as the event went on reaching a crescendo during Jeetu&#8217;s presentation where going the last mile to provide line of business apps was where IIG was heading.  Rick D also gave air time to the topic in his keynote.</p>
<p>IIGs / Documentum&#8217;s  track record for maintaining applications is patchy at best, remember GXPharma and DC Manager?   Only last year IIG endorsed CSC First Docs as the pefered choice for drug trail submissions and this year IIG are back with a new offering of their own.  OpenText made the same noises about becoming a solutions provider few years ago and appear to have gone quiet.  </p>
<p>If customers are asking for applications not customizations (OK configurations these days) to solve a business problem are IIG the right people to provide a whole range of industry vertical applications.</p>
<p>Building, versioning and supporting line of business application products is a world apart from being a great platform provider. Is the Professional Services team the right place to build and maintain applications, will partners conitinue to invest in building certified solutions on Documentum if there is a danger that IIG will compete and whether or not of whether this solution strategy will prevail in the long term all remains to be seen. </p>
<p>The problems are for IIG are already showing as the first of these productized services solutions is based neither on x/cp or D2 which means a complete re-write to keep up with the platform let alone adding new functionality.</p>
<p>I was surprised you didn&#8217;t mention this in your, excellent as usual. summing up.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Documentum, Not Going Away Without a Fight by jed</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2012/05/25/documentum-not-going-away-without-a-fight/#comment-50179</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 01:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pie I am not sure I u derstand your second paragraph, are you saying you expect only one of those major &quot;traditional&quot; ECM vendors to successfully move towards being a cloud ECM provider ???

As ever thanks for your coverage of the conference and your thoughtful analysis :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pie I am not sure I u derstand your second paragraph, are you saying you expect only one of those major &#8220;traditional&#8221; ECM vendors to successfully move towards being a cloud ECM provider ???</p>
<p>As ever thanks for your coverage of the conference and your thoughtful analysis <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Documentum has a Vision Again, How About Execution? by Documentum, Not Going Away Without a Fight &#171; Word of Pie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Documentum, Not Going Away Without a Fight &#171; Word of Pie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 00:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] aware of all this, last year at EMC World, Rick Devenuti announced during the Momentum keynote a new strategy for Documentum. Based around the concept of the New User, the idea was to support the transition to Bring Your Own [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] aware of all this, last year at EMC World, Rick Devenuti announced during the Momentum keynote a new strategy for Documentum. Based around the concept of the New User, the idea was to support the transition to Bring Your Own [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on EMC World 2012: Rules of the Road by EMC World 2012: Determining if EMC OnDemand is Right for You &#171; Word of Pie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EMC World 2012: Determining if EMC OnDemand is Right for You &#171; Word of Pie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 00:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Disclaimer All information in this post was gathered from the presenters and presentation. It does not reflect my opinion unless clearly indicated (Italics in parenthesis). Any errors are most likely from my misunderstanding a statement or imperfectly recording the information. Updates to correct information are reflected in red, but may not be otherwise indicated. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Disclaimer All information in this post was gathered from the presenters and presentation. It does not reflect my opinion unless clearly indicated (Italics in parenthesis). Any errors are most likely from my misunderstanding a statement or imperfectly recording the information. Updates to correct information are reflected in red, but may not be otherwise indicated. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on EMC World 2012: Rules of the Road by EMC World 2012: Jeetu Keynote, Roadmap for Transforming Your World &#171; Word of Pie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EMC World 2012: Jeetu Keynote, Roadmap for Transforming Your World &#171; Word of Pie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 18:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Disclaimer All information in this post was gathered from the presenters and presentation. It does not reflect my opinion unless clearly indicated (Italics in parenthesis). Any errors are most likely from my misunderstanding a statement or imperfectly recording the information. Updates to correct information are reflected in red, but may not be otherwise indicated. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Disclaimer All information in this post was gathered from the presenters and presentation. It does not reflect my opinion unless clearly indicated (Italics in parenthesis). Any errors are most likely from my misunderstanding a statement or imperfectly recording the information. Updates to correct information are reflected in red, but may not be otherwise indicated. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on EMC World 2012: Rick Devenuti&#8217;s Documentum Keynote by Jed Spink (@jedspink)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jed Spink (@jedspink)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 12:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Laurence. D2 4.0 seems to be an interesting new development since MMTM Berlin. That and Syncplicity seem to be the &quot;new messages&quot; since then - so far.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Laurence. D2 4.0 seems to be an interesting new development since MMTM Berlin. That and Syncplicity seem to be the &#8220;new messages&#8221; since then &#8211; so far.</p>
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		<title>Comment on EMC World 2012: xCP 2.0&#8211;Insider&#8217;s View by Documentum, MMTM12, xCP, D2, IIGDocumentum City</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2012/05/21/emc-world-2012-xcp-2-0insiders-view/#comment-50069</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Documentum, MMTM12, xCP, D2, IIGDocumentum City]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 11:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] For the best summary check out Laurence Hart’s personal blog (he works for AIIM, so please note this is his personal opinion): http://wordofpie.com/2012/05/21/emc-world-2012-xcp-2-0insiders-view/ [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For the best summary check out Laurence Hart’s personal blog (he works for AIIM, so please note this is his personal opinion): <a href="http://wordofpie.com/2012/05/21/emc-world-2012-xcp-2-0insiders-view/" rel="nofollow">http://wordofpie.com/2012/05/21/emc-world-2012-xcp-2-0insiders-view/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on EMC World 2012: Rules of the Road by EMC World 2012: Rick Devenuti&#8217;s Documentum Keynote &#171; Word of Pie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EMC World 2012: Rick Devenuti&#8217;s Documentum Keynote &#171; Word of Pie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 23:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Disclaimer All information in this post was gathered from the presenters and presentation. It does not reflect my opinion unless clearly indicated (Italics in parenthesis). Any errors are most likely from my misunderstanding a statement or imperfectly recording the information. Updates to correct information are reflected in red, but may not be otherwise indicated. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thoughts on EMC World 2008 and the ECM Professional by EMC World 2012: Rick Devenuti&#8217;s Documentum Keynote &#171; Word of Pie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EMC World 2012: Rick Devenuti&#8217;s Documentum Keynote &#171; Word of Pie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 23:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] approaching 1000 (lower than pre-EMC levels but increase over recent [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on EMC World 2012: Rules of the Road by EMC World 2012: xCP 2.0&#8211;Insider&#8217;s View &#171; Word of Pie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EMC World 2012: xCP 2.0&#8211;Insider&#8217;s View &#171; Word of Pie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 23:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Disclaimer All information in this post was gathered from the presenters and presentation. It does not reflect my opinion unless clearly indicated (Italics in parenthesis). Any errors are most likely from my misunderstanding a statement or imperfectly recording the information. Updates to correct information are reflected in red, but may not be otherwise indicated. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on EMC World 2012: Documentum Architecture by Jérémy Prioux</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jérémy Prioux]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 18:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Next Life as AIIM&#8217;s CIO by Career of an Information Professional, from Developer to CIO &#171; Word of Pie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Career of an Information Professional, from Developer to CIO &#171; Word of Pie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 21:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] on the next leg of my journey. I’m applying all of this to helping AIIM achieve its goals of being the Global Community of [...]]]></description>
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