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		<title>By: Is ECM Going the Way of the Dodo? Or Maybe the Way of the Intranet? &#187; Article Evolution</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2009/12/28/turning-the-ecm-definition-around/#comment-27113</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Is ECM Going the Way of the Dodo? Or Maybe the Way of the Intranet? &#187; Article Evolution]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Turning the ECM Definition Is ECM Going The Way Of The Dodo? Or Maybe The Way Of The Intranet? http://www.intranetexperience.com/ourblog/2009/12/has-ecm-gone-the-way-of-the-dodo-or-the-intranet/ [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: ECM and CMS Living In Harmony &#171; Word of Pie</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2009/12/28/turning-the-ecm-definition-around/#comment-12656</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ECM and CMS Living In Harmony &#171; Word of Pie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] last visited the definition of ECM around the New Year.&#160; Pulling the update from the comments and adding the word Strategy gives [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2009/12/28/turning-the-ecm-definition-around/#comment-11872</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 03:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder if &quot;computer files&quot; would be too lame?]]></description>
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		<title>By: Pie</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2009/12/28/turning-the-ecm-definition-around/#comment-11870</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unstructured is also a sinkhole because XML is structured, but I want my ECM system to be able to handle it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unstructured is also a sinkhole because XML is structured, but I want my ECM system to be able to handle it.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2009/12/28/turning-the-ecm-definition-around/#comment-11864</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is a great topic.  I still think it seems more wordy than it needs to be.  Something like this is was my attempt at the same subject

Enterprise Content Management (ECM) is the ongoing effort for an organization to use technology to organize their unstructured information and resources.

But I am still trying to tweek that last part &quot;unstructured information and resources&quot;  seems a bit lame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a great topic.  I still think it seems more wordy than it needs to be.  Something like this is was my attempt at the same subject</p>
<p>Enterprise Content Management (ECM) is the ongoing effort for an organization to use technology to organize their unstructured information and resources.</p>
<p>But I am still trying to tweek that last part &#8220;unstructured information and resources&#8221;  seems a bit lame.</p>
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		<title>By: A Slice off Pie &#171; The CMS Curmudgeon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Slice off Pie &#171; The CMS Curmudgeon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] by the term &#8220;Enterprise Content Management&#8221; (ECM). In a late December post entitled &#8220;Turning the ECM Definition Around&#8221;, Pie neatly justified his search as follows:  Back in October, there was some debate on updating [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by the term &#8220;Enterprise Content Management&#8221; (ECM). In a late December post entitled &#8220;Turning the ECM Definition Around&#8221;, Pie neatly justified his search as follows:  Back in October, there was some debate on updating [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ECM or Document Management? &#171; Word of Pie</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2009/12/28/turning-the-ecm-definition-around/#comment-11858</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ECM or Document Management? &#171; Word of Pie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is a real good discussion on the definition of ECM in the comments of my recent post  and I&#8217;ll be re-visiting that in detail in the near [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is a real good discussion on the definition of ECM in the comments of my recent post  and I&#8217;ll be re-visiting that in detail in the near [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rainer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right. How about &lt;em&gt;control&lt;/em&gt;?
But then, looking at it again now, i&#039;m also coming around to the view that &lt;em&gt;find and use&lt;/em&gt; is indeed complete enough.  We manage content so that people/systems can find and use... basta!  We don&#039;t manage content so that people/systems can find and use &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; manage/control...  Yep, i&#039;ve convinced myself. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right. How about <em>control</em>?<br />
But then, looking at it again now, i&#8217;m also coming around to the view that <em>find and use</em> is indeed complete enough.  We manage content so that people/systems can find and use&#8230; basta!  We don&#8217;t manage content so that people/systems can find and use <em>and</em> manage/control&#8230;  Yep, i&#8217;ve convinced myself. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sean, thanks for chiming in.  I think EIM should never be used.  I don&#039;t like the word Enterprise.  I&#039;d remove it from ECM if I didn&#039;t want to start the whole education process over again throughout the industry.

I&#039;m going to address more about your comment in an upcoming post.  I think we need to combine the comments and see where we are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean, thanks for chiming in.  I think EIM should never be used.  I don&#8217;t like the word Enterprise.  I&#8217;d remove it from ECM if I didn&#8217;t want to start the whole education process over again throughout the industry.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to address more about your comment in an upcoming post.  I think we need to combine the comments and see where we are.</p>
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		<title>By: Pie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the revision.  I don&#039;t like facilitate either.  I don&#039;t hate it, but don&#039;t like it.  Some specific comments:

- Not sure I like practice.  Vague and I don&#039;t feel it captures strategy.  I think a separate definition of ECM Platform and ECM Practice may be in order.

- We have to kill information resources.  We are clearly managing content.  A second sentence defining content may be in order.

- Still a big fan of a 1 sentence definition.  ECM should be definable in a single thought, not a pair.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the revision.  I don&#8217;t like facilitate either.  I don&#8217;t hate it, but don&#8217;t like it.  Some specific comments:</p>
<p>- Not sure I like practice.  Vague and I don&#8217;t feel it captures strategy.  I think a separate definition of ECM Platform and ECM Practice may be in order.</p>
<p>- We have to kill information resources.  We are clearly managing content.  A second sentence defining content may be in order.</p>
<p>- Still a big fan of a 1 sentence definition.  ECM should be definable in a single thought, not a pair.</p>
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		<title>By: Pie</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2009/12/28/turning-the-ecm-definition-around/#comment-11852</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The source of the phrase was from Andrew&#039;s Enterprise 2.0 definition which I had recently been studying.  I like organizational goals, but it may still be too wordy.

If we can&#039;t explain it in a simple sentence, do we really understand it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The source of the phrase was from Andrew&#8217;s Enterprise 2.0 definition which I had recently been studying.  I like organizational goals, but it may still be too wordy.</p>
<p>If we can&#8217;t explain it in a simple sentence, do we really understand it?</p>
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		<title>By: Pie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with the word &quot;Manage&quot; is that it is a key piece of what we are defining.  Trying to avoid circular references.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the word &#8220;Manage&#8221; is that it is a key piece of what we are defining.  Trying to avoid circular references.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean R. Nicholson</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2009/12/28/turning-the-ecm-definition-around/#comment-11838</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean R. Nicholson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 02:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love the topic, I&#039;ve been questioning AIIM and their definition of ECM for almost a year now. After a good conversation with some of the folks at AIIM, I&#039;m nearly convinced that Enterprise Information Management (EIM) will eventually negate a need for the term ECM.

With ECM, the focus on unstructured content just doesn&#039;t seem to make sense as organizations move a significant amount of their data from unstructured to structured. Will there always need to be strategies for dealing with unstructured? Absolutely, but the focus will shift away from unstructured and more toward being able to locate and use vast amounts of structured and semi-structured data more efficiently. As organizations store more knowledge in wikis, blogs, intranet applications, and knowledge bases, the nature of how information is stored in the enterprise will shift from unstructured to semi-structured+structured.

I have also questioned AIIMs contention that 80% of organizational data lies in unstructured data simply because email is considered unstructured. With changes coming in the way we communicate internally, email will shift from unstructured to semi-structured, and that 80% number will become less-accurate every day. Although not fully used by organizations now, technologies like GoogleWave and interactive &quot;Facebook-like&quot; intranets will start reshaping how our data is stored. Heck, 5 years ago, we would have been having this dialog via email, Google group, or list-serve. Now a semi-structured blog has become the vehicle...the proof of change lies in this very dialog. How many of these are occuring within the enterprise as well?

I, too, wrote a blog questioning whether the definition of ECM is becoming outdated and got a few interesting responses on my blog:

Is ECM Going The Way Of The Dodo? Or Maybe The Way Of The Intranet?
http://www.intranetexperience.com/ourblog/2009/12/has-ecm-gone-the-way-of-the-dodo-or-the-intranet/

Looking forward to reading more great responses!

--Sean
@seanrnicholson]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the topic, I&#8217;ve been questioning AIIM and their definition of ECM for almost a year now. After a good conversation with some of the folks at AIIM, I&#8217;m nearly convinced that Enterprise Information Management (EIM) will eventually negate a need for the term ECM.</p>
<p>With ECM, the focus on unstructured content just doesn&#8217;t seem to make sense as organizations move a significant amount of their data from unstructured to structured. Will there always need to be strategies for dealing with unstructured? Absolutely, but the focus will shift away from unstructured and more toward being able to locate and use vast amounts of structured and semi-structured data more efficiently. As organizations store more knowledge in wikis, blogs, intranet applications, and knowledge bases, the nature of how information is stored in the enterprise will shift from unstructured to semi-structured+structured.</p>
<p>I have also questioned AIIMs contention that 80% of organizational data lies in unstructured data simply because email is considered unstructured. With changes coming in the way we communicate internally, email will shift from unstructured to semi-structured, and that 80% number will become less-accurate every day. Although not fully used by organizations now, technologies like GoogleWave and interactive &#8220;Facebook-like&#8221; intranets will start reshaping how our data is stored. Heck, 5 years ago, we would have been having this dialog via email, Google group, or list-serve. Now a semi-structured blog has become the vehicle&#8230;the proof of change lies in this very dialog. How many of these are occuring within the enterprise as well?</p>
<p>I, too, wrote a blog questioning whether the definition of ECM is becoming outdated and got a few interesting responses on my blog:</p>
<p>Is ECM Going The Way Of The Dodo? Or Maybe The Way Of The Intranet?<br />
<a href="http://www.intranetexperience.com/ourblog/2009/12/has-ecm-gone-the-way-of-the-dodo-or-the-intranet/" rel="nofollow">http://www.intranetexperience.com/ourblog/2009/12/has-ecm-gone-the-way-of-the-dodo-or-the-intranet/</a></p>
<p>Looking forward to reading more great responses!</p>
<p>&#8211;Sean<br />
@seanrnicholson</p>
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		<title>By: Rainer</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Jed. I like it. I hope you don&#039;t mind if i use it, with (yet further though slight) alterations:

&lt;em&gt;Enterprise Content Management (ECM) is the practice of coordinated management of all content throughout an organization. It enables people and systems to access and manage information resources from within any business context using platform agnostic standards to achieve organizational goals.&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m trying out the word &lt;em&gt;practice&lt;/em&gt; as an embodiment of techniques, strategies, methods and maybe even tools. I had &lt;em&gt;theory and practice&lt;/em&gt; initially, then dropped &lt;em&gt;theory&lt;/em&gt;.

I hate (sorry Pie, some things you just gotta hate) the word &lt;em&gt;facilitate&lt;/em&gt; so that just had to go. It doesn&#039;t make the definition any clearer.

Then i replaced the second &lt;em&gt;content&lt;/em&gt; with &lt;em&gt;information resources&lt;/em&gt;.
But i could be opening a can of worms here. Consider a database query result that forms the &lt;em&gt;content&lt;/em&gt; of a report. That&#039;s a &lt;em&gt;view&lt;/em&gt; of &lt;em&gt;structured&lt;/em&gt; content, yes?
And structured content falls outside the purview of ECM? Does it? But it is an information resource...

Finally &lt;em&gt;business&lt;/em&gt; beccomes &lt;em&gt;organizational&lt;/em&gt; goals as per Daniels suggestion.

Still two sentences but so what?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jed. I like it. I hope you don&#8217;t mind if i use it, with (yet further though slight) alterations:</p>
<p><em>Enterprise Content Management (ECM) is the practice of coordinated management of all content throughout an organization. It enables people and systems to access and manage information resources from within any business context using platform agnostic standards to achieve organizational goals.</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying out the word <em>practice</em> as an embodiment of techniques, strategies, methods and maybe even tools. I had <em>theory and practice</em> initially, then dropped <em>theory</em>.</p>
<p>I hate (sorry Pie, some things you just gotta hate) the word <em>facilitate</em> so that just had to go. It doesn&#8217;t make the definition any clearer.</p>
<p>Then i replaced the second <em>content</em> with <em>information resources</em>.<br />
But i could be opening a can of worms here. Consider a database query result that forms the <em>content</em> of a report. That&#8217;s a <em>view</em> of <em>structured</em> content, yes?<br />
And structured content falls outside the purview of ECM? Does it? But it is an information resource&#8230;</p>
<p>Finally <em>business</em> beccomes <em>organizational</em> goals as per Daniels suggestion.</p>
<p>Still two sentences but so what?</p>
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		<title>By: Rainer</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2009/12/28/turning-the-ecm-definition-around/#comment-11818</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rainer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 21:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice, Daniel! Otherwise, does Andrew McAfee really lay claim to the phrase &quot;to achieve business goals&quot;?? Was he the guy that first said it?? It seems laughable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice, Daniel! Otherwise, does Andrew McAfee really lay claim to the phrase &#8220;to achieve business goals&#8221;?? Was he the guy that first said it?? It seems laughable.</p>
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