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	<title>Comments on: Documentum, So Close and Still So Far Away with SharePoint</title>
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		<title>By: Pie</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2009/05/26/documentum-so-close-and-still-so-far-away-with-sharepoint/#comment-38539</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aside from the fact that this post is 2 years old, thanks for commenting...

That said, your observation is still relevant. I have been told on multiple locations that they are looking at the possibility of moving to RBS or other methods of maintaining the functionality in future editions. I first heard of the deprecation of EBS from EMC at least a year ago, so they are aware and making plans. EMC is also working with Microsoft on this issue.

Not indicating that all will be well as some of it is still in the hands of Microsoft, but EMC is aware and working on a solution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from the fact that this post is 2 years old, thanks for commenting&#8230;</p>
<p>That said, your observation is still relevant. I have been told on multiple locations that they are looking at the possibility of moving to RBS or other methods of maintaining the functionality in future editions. I first heard of the deprecation of EBS from EMC at least a year ago, so they are aware and making plans. EMC is also working with Microsoft on this issue.</p>
<p>Not indicating that all will be well as some of it is still in the hands of Microsoft, but EMC is aware and working on a solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristoffer</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2009/05/26/documentum-so-close-and-still-so-far-away-with-sharepoint/#comment-38512</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristoffer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 10:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Repository Services is a great product for what it was designed to do. It supports MOSS2007 and SP2010, but what about the next version of SharePoint?  

With the release of SP2010 Microsoft announced they would deprecate EBS in favour of Remote Blob Storage (RBS) which sits at the SQL Server level. It has an extension into SP2010 and will be the only way to externalize BLOBS in future releases of SP.

EMC already have an RBS connector to Centera, available since 2008, for free download on the EMC Community Network. Would be good to hear if IIG will port the EBS features of Repository Services to support RBS?

Kristoffer

[&lt;em&gt;Combined your comments into one&lt;/em&gt;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Repository Services is a great product for what it was designed to do. It supports MOSS2007 and SP2010, but what about the next version of SharePoint?  </p>
<p>With the release of SP2010 Microsoft announced they would deprecate EBS in favour of Remote Blob Storage (RBS) which sits at the SQL Server level. It has an extension into SP2010 and will be the only way to externalize BLOBS in future releases of SP.</p>
<p>EMC already have an RBS connector to Centera, available since 2008, for free download on the EMC Community Network. Would be good to hear if IIG will port the EBS features of Repository Services to support RBS?</p>
<p>Kristoffer</p>
<p>[<em>Combined your comments into one</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: gfari</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2009/05/26/documentum-so-close-and-still-so-far-away-with-sharepoint/#comment-38194</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gfari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2 GB is by design, and enforced by the object model.  At the same time, the SharePoint team has greatly increased the supported overall storage limit, which becomes very relevant for ECM scenarios: http://sharepoint.microsoft.com/blog/Pages/BlogPost.aspx?pID=988  

- Gabor]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 GB is by design, and enforced by the object model.  At the same time, the SharePoint team has greatly increased the supported overall storage limit, which becomes very relevant for ECM scenarios: <a href="http://sharepoint.microsoft.com/blog/Pages/BlogPost.aspx?pID=988" rel="nofollow">http://sharepoint.microsoft.com/blog/Pages/BlogPost.aspx?pID=988</a>  </p>
<p>- Gabor</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Chapman</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2009/05/26/documentum-so-close-and-still-so-far-away-with-sharepoint/#comment-38191</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Chapman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gabor, 

I thought that the 2GB limit was the IIS OOTB limit but that it *could* be increased (at your own risk). Is the 2GB a hard limit then?

Andrew]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gabor, </p>
<p>I thought that the 2GB limit was the IIS OOTB limit but that it *could* be increased (at your own risk). Is the 2GB a hard limit then?</p>
<p>Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: gfari</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gfari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Max file size is 2 GB by design.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max file size is 2 GB by design.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Chapman</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2009/05/26/documentum-so-close-and-still-so-far-away-with-sharepoint/#comment-38188</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Chapman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know of any theoretical maximum limitation but I&#039;d be pretty confident that it would be much larger than SharePoint or IIS would allow. We did performance and scale testing with multi-GB files but I don&#039;t think that we took it to any crazy sizes because whatever we put away has to get through the SharePoint stack first. 

FYI - Repository Services takes the file from the underlying file system and uses DFS to load it into Documentum. If DFS has a limitation then that would be it I guess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know of any theoretical maximum limitation but I&#8217;d be pretty confident that it would be much larger than SharePoint or IIS would allow. We did performance and scale testing with multi-GB files but I don&#8217;t think that we took it to any crazy sizes because whatever we put away has to get through the SharePoint stack first. </p>
<p>FYI &#8211; Repository Services takes the file from the underlying file system and uses DFS to load it into Documentum. If DFS has a limitation then that would be it I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Jure</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2009/05/26/documentum-so-close-and-still-so-far-away-with-sharepoint/#comment-38069</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jure]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 05:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you know maybe the max size of content that can be uploaded to SharePoint through Repository services and on to Documentum? 

We have a client that wants to use repository services and store content to documentum - but has huge files 2GB size max.

Thx for answer]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know maybe the max size of content that can be uploaded to SharePoint through Repository services and on to Documentum? </p>
<p>We have a client that wants to use repository services and store content to documentum &#8211; but has huge files 2GB size max.</p>
<p>Thx for answer</p>
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		<title>By: Pie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They are looking at that.  A lot will depend on how SP 2010 looks and what changes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are looking at that.  A lot will depend on how SP 2010 looks and what changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Eldev</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2009/05/26/documentum-so-close-and-still-so-far-away-with-sharepoint/#comment-8585</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eldev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope it will be  possible to find a solution for the integration of Documentum in Sharepoint 2010. But this should be based on the cost-effective approach certainly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope it will be  possible to find a solution for the integration of Documentum in Sharepoint 2010. But this should be based on the cost-effective approach certainly.</p>
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		<title>By: Pie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 13:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True, it does feel that way at first glance, but I think that EMC understands the goals they are trying to reach. This offering is already in many ways better than the eRoom integration with Documentum.  They are also planning improvements and queried the audience as to where they should invest their resources.  It wasn&#039;t a courtesy question either as they sincerely wanted the input.

This isn&#039;t a case of them not getting it or not caring.  With eRoom, EMC owned both sides, but stopped.  With SharePoint, EMC has no control over SharePoint but EMC is pushing forward regardless.  Time will tell, but they appear to be pushing as hard as they can to reach the finish line. It is just a long way off for everyone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, it does feel that way at first glance, but I think that EMC understands the goals they are trying to reach. This offering is already in many ways better than the eRoom integration with Documentum.  They are also planning improvements and queried the audience as to where they should invest their resources.  It wasn&#8217;t a courtesy question either as they sincerely wanted the input.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a case of them not getting it or not caring.  With eRoom, EMC owned both sides, but stopped.  With SharePoint, EMC has no control over SharePoint but EMC is pushing forward regardless.  Time will tell, but they appear to be pushing as hard as they can to reach the finish line. It is just a long way off for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Syd Kahn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Syd Kahn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 13:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you take out the SharePoint from your post and insert the word eRoom - it sounds all to familiar.  EMC never seemed to get that interaction right either, even after all this time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you take out the SharePoint from your post and insert the word eRoom &#8211; it sounds all to familiar.  EMC never seemed to get that interaction right either, even after all this time.</p>
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