Comments on: Documentum 6.5 is Released

By: Gary Adamson

Gary Adamson — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:37:03 +0000

As a document manager for 12 years, I am glad to see 6.5 with new features, but feel there was still more room for improvements. I have a job to convince my company a way forward globally, dctm 6.5 does not offer that as a package, more input from myself and creation is required.

By: Tim Vernaillen

Tim Vernaillen — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:09:25 +0000

Some extra information about 6.5 on two you tube movies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waUfPsOLA1E&feature=related

By: Chad

Chad — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:30:53 +0000

Get a closer look at Documentum 6.5 in the live EMC webcast tomorrow:
Web 2.0 Meets Enterprise Content Management
August 7, 2008
10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET

By: Lee Smith

Lee Smith — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:32:57 +0000

I think you answer your question yourself Jed. The fact that you say probably to the question of selling MOSS as a ‘pure’ Portal means there is doubt. Going further, as you say, the next release is more tightly integrated with Office. SharePoint does have basic content services, I’m not a fan of the way it has been done but it meets the needs a large percentage of the market. Completely agree on the statement about SharePoint not being an ECM, its way off the capability of a Documentum, FileNet or OpenText product set. The problem goes back to the usual…it is viral. Get it in there, get it doing basic stuff, get people using….then grow its footprint, by hook or by crook.

By: Jed

Jed — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:19:19 +0000

“MOSS is so much more than a portal” – says who Lee ? Microsoft Marketing ? Its a portal, and like all portal software that really means its a developer framework, and it comes with add on’s like Plumbtree/BEA/Oracle Aqualogic which had DM and WCM modules, like IBM WebSphere with DM and WCM modules (and of course integration with IBM’s federated RM and all the social networking goodies) etc etc

Could you technically cut the crappy document library and stuff out of MOSS and sell it as a ‘pure’ portal, probably, but its Microsoft “Office” Sharepoint server for a reason – its tied to the cash cow. Rumours are that the next iteration will be even more closely linked into Office.

Part of me wants EMC or just somebody to take them on at their own game, but the ‘CenterStage is not Sharepoint’ message is an honest and sensible one. Now if only we could get MS to stop telling everyone Sharepoint is ECM……

By: Pie

Pie — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:13:10 +0000

James, I didn’t see anything significant in the release notes. I haven’t done a full-scale inspection though.

-Pie

By: James

James — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:03:14 +0000

Is DFS WSDL still fugly? Did they make security any better?

By: Lee Smith

Lee Smith — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:46:51 +0000

Thanks for the update Pie, I’ll have a look.

Interesting note on the webinar, I didn’t join this one but it sounded quite interesting. SharePoint as the Portal is clearly where Documentum see things, but MOSS is so much more than a Portal. I’m working on something currently where SharePoint will be a Portal interface on top of Documentum, but it will NOT replace the Documentum interface. Portals should not replace the application which they are presenting, but show the key information and features. This raises a number of questions:

- why pay for the full MOSS license if you just want to use it as a Portal?
- do Documentum see that J2EE Portal Containers are less important now than SharePoint? (Given Oracle and BEA there is less choice in this market)

Also remember to really exploit Documentum through a MOSS Portal customers will need 6.5 if they want to use DFS, there is so much more available in 6.5 on DFS…developing a MOSS client in anything but DFS now would be strange.

Looking forward to getting my hands on Centerstage though!