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	<title>Comments on: Documentum and ECM&#8230;A Career or a Job?</title>
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		<title>By: Charles Stepp</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2008/07/15/documentum-and-ecma-career-or-a-job/#comment-38664</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles Stepp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Full time positions worth having are few and far between. I just left one that started with four weeks vacation, good benefits, and good job security. But, it was with a very large firm that is highly regulated. I could hardly blow my nose without putting in multiple different badly designed web based requests. I eventually had my fill and snagged a contract position with a company for which I had been an employee in the past. That previous position died on the altar of outsourcing. I was attracted to the possibility of more technical freedom and less bureaucracy and so far, it has been a good move. Contacting vs. full time employee is a question that, like so many others, depends.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full time positions worth having are few and far between. I just left one that started with four weeks vacation, good benefits, and good job security. But, it was with a very large firm that is highly regulated. I could hardly blow my nose without putting in multiple different badly designed web based requests. I eventually had my fill and snagged a contract position with a company for which I had been an employee in the past. That previous position died on the altar of outsourcing. I was attracted to the possibility of more technical freedom and less bureaucracy and so far, it has been a good move. Contacting vs. full time employee is a question that, like so many others, depends.</p>
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		<title>By: doquent</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2008/07/15/documentum-and-ecma-career-or-a-job/#comment-3362</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am big fan of Robert Kiyasaki (&quot;Rich Dad, Poor Dad&quot; fame) as he was a key inspiration for me to take the risk of stepping out of the security provided by a paycheck (I never had to worry about this much but for many people today&#039;s economy doesn&#039;t offer much security there either). If you read Tom Peters, he recommends starting with a small-e entrepreneurship (1-person shop) if you are not ready to set up a big business on your own.

Having spent about 13 years with learning on a higher priority than earning (3.5 years in graduate studies and remaining working as an employee where growth was more important than the wages), I am happy to have put the knowledge to work for better financial rewards. There are always learning opportunities, the key determinant is what you do with them. From my perspective, it hasn&#039;t mattered whether I was an employee, consultant while an employee, or consultant while a contractor. Here, I agree with what Lee says above regarding the distinction in terms of roles you play. 

Then I have learned a significant amount about running a small business, which I couldn&#039;t have (to the same degree) while I was an employee. I have learned the significance reading and understanding everything that I sign - I had to use a lawyer&#039;s services for the first time. I have learned about accounting and taxes to an extent that I would have never cared for. 

With regard to leaving a mark, I have great relationships with people whom I have worked with and I continue to build more. An an independent, I have been able to create IP that an employer would have snagged without a second thought. I have been able to establish an online Documentum community (dm_cram). I have been able to make and implement business decisions that my employer didn&#039;t consider worthy, though they loved me for my technical acumen.

I am not trying to generalize my experience for others - it&#039;s unique for every individual. You also make some good points but I would not agree with them in the blanket &quot;contractor bad, employee good&quot; form.

The bottom line is that the strategic need and financial situation of the employer combined with the quality of the candidate determine whether the employer wants to hire the candidate as an employee. My experience says that if it is a great candidate (only a small percentage qualify), hire him/her in the capacity that he/she is happy with. If you are a great employer, his/her mind may change. If not, you still get great services.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am big fan of Robert Kiyasaki (&#8220;Rich Dad, Poor Dad&#8221; fame) as he was a key inspiration for me to take the risk of stepping out of the security provided by a paycheck (I never had to worry about this much but for many people today&#8217;s economy doesn&#8217;t offer much security there either). If you read Tom Peters, he recommends starting with a small-e entrepreneurship (1-person shop) if you are not ready to set up a big business on your own.</p>
<p>Having spent about 13 years with learning on a higher priority than earning (3.5 years in graduate studies and remaining working as an employee where growth was more important than the wages), I am happy to have put the knowledge to work for better financial rewards. There are always learning opportunities, the key determinant is what you do with them. From my perspective, it hasn&#8217;t mattered whether I was an employee, consultant while an employee, or consultant while a contractor. Here, I agree with what Lee says above regarding the distinction in terms of roles you play. </p>
<p>Then I have learned a significant amount about running a small business, which I couldn&#8217;t have (to the same degree) while I was an employee. I have learned the significance reading and understanding everything that I sign &#8211; I had to use a lawyer&#8217;s services for the first time. I have learned about accounting and taxes to an extent that I would have never cared for. </p>
<p>With regard to leaving a mark, I have great relationships with people whom I have worked with and I continue to build more. An an independent, I have been able to create IP that an employer would have snagged without a second thought. I have been able to establish an online Documentum community (dm_cram). I have been able to make and implement business decisions that my employer didn&#8217;t consider worthy, though they loved me for my technical acumen.</p>
<p>I am not trying to generalize my experience for others &#8211; it&#8217;s unique for every individual. You also make some good points but I would not agree with them in the blanket &#8220;contractor bad, employee good&#8221; form.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that the strategic need and financial situation of the employer combined with the quality of the candidate determine whether the employer wants to hire the candidate as an employee. My experience says that if it is a great candidate (only a small percentage qualify), hire him/her in the capacity that he/she is happy with. If you are a great employer, his/her mind may change. If not, you still get great services.</p>
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		<title>By: eroomexpert</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2008/07/15/documentum-and-ecma-career-or-a-job/#comment-3349</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It shouldn&#039;t sadden you that someone with a spouse and children wants to do contract work.  For someone who has technical expertise and an entrepreneurial spirit, contracting is the way to go.  By working different jobs at different clients, you gain a breadth of knowledge that you would not get working in one place for a long time.  It&#039;s good to be exposed to a variety of environments.  I began my technical career working in the consulting services division of Digital Equipment Corp, then Compaq Computers.  When I started, they paid me $48K out of college plus a company car.  They also sent us to nice vacation spots once per quarter for &quot;company meetings&quot;.  This was great, but they billed me out at $200 an hour.  The end clients were Financial (Boston, MA) and State/Local Government.  After  couple years, and a boat load of experience, I went out on my own and started my own consulting services company.  Been doing it ever since.  I may be the exception to the rule as my largest Federal client has been my client for almost 10 years.  I love the work and the freedom of being a contractor.

As for Lee&#039;s question about focusing on Documentum, that is a really good question.  My handle is eRoom expert.  Have to change that soon, as eRoom will be fading away.  Magellan/ CenterStage will be taking its&#039; place.  We will continue to focus on eRoom and soon... CenterStage/Magellan.  But, we will also watch trends and work in other areas as well.  

In the meantime, have fun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It shouldn&#8217;t sadden you that someone with a spouse and children wants to do contract work.  For someone who has technical expertise and an entrepreneurial spirit, contracting is the way to go.  By working different jobs at different clients, you gain a breadth of knowledge that you would not get working in one place for a long time.  It&#8217;s good to be exposed to a variety of environments.  I began my technical career working in the consulting services division of Digital Equipment Corp, then Compaq Computers.  When I started, they paid me $48K out of college plus a company car.  They also sent us to nice vacation spots once per quarter for &#8220;company meetings&#8221;.  This was great, but they billed me out at $200 an hour.  The end clients were Financial (Boston, MA) and State/Local Government.  After  couple years, and a boat load of experience, I went out on my own and started my own consulting services company.  Been doing it ever since.  I may be the exception to the rule as my largest Federal client has been my client for almost 10 years.  I love the work and the freedom of being a contractor.</p>
<p>As for Lee&#8217;s question about focusing on Documentum, that is a really good question.  My handle is eRoom expert.  Have to change that soon, as eRoom will be fading away.  Magellan/ CenterStage will be taking its&#8217; place.  We will continue to focus on eRoom and soon&#8230; CenterStage/Magellan.  But, we will also watch trends and work in other areas as well.  </p>
<p>In the meantime, have fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Dallas</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2008/07/15/documentum-and-ecma-career-or-a-job/#comment-3341</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee Dallas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe a better distinction would be contractor vs. consultant. Consultant implies an expertise built over time, that is used to educate the customer so they can one day do it themselves. A contractor is just temporary bandwidth, hopefully that has the expertise. All too often it is little more than on the job training for someone else&#039;s employee. 

When it comes down to it, a career is not a company. A career is not a project. A career is a progressive succession of experiences that lead to building a body of knowledge and expertise that (hopefully) becomes more valuable over time.

My career (and yours) is in ECM. Contractor, consultant or customer are roles to play. I do believe that contractors who have never been customers or people that have never supported what they built for an extended period are responsible for more than their fair share of the bad reputation and high failure rate in CMS deployments. 
 
The question I have been asking myself lately...within ECM is Documentum still a good choice to focus on for the next 3, 5 or even 10 years?  We&#039;re not getting any younger. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe a better distinction would be contractor vs. consultant. Consultant implies an expertise built over time, that is used to educate the customer so they can one day do it themselves. A contractor is just temporary bandwidth, hopefully that has the expertise. All too often it is little more than on the job training for someone else&#8217;s employee. </p>
<p>When it comes down to it, a career is not a company. A career is not a project. A career is a progressive succession of experiences that lead to building a body of knowledge and expertise that (hopefully) becomes more valuable over time.</p>
<p>My career (and yours) is in ECM. Contractor, consultant or customer are roles to play. I do believe that contractors who have never been customers or people that have never supported what they built for an extended period are responsible for more than their fair share of the bad reputation and high failure rate in CMS deployments. </p>
<p>The question I have been asking myself lately&#8230;within ECM is Documentum still a good choice to focus on for the next 3, 5 or even 10 years?  We&#8217;re not getting any younger. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A discussion!!!  Seriously, it depends.  Being an independent consultant can build a solid foundation and makes sense for some.  After a while, you have to ask yourself, &quot;Am I growing?&quot;  Only you can truly answer that question.

A career offers some fulfillment in addition to the paycheck.  The focus is not on the paycheck, but looking at the legacy, and the future, that you are building.

I know some independents that used those experiences to build a solid career.  Some have grown their self-owned, independent consultant, companies to actually have others work for them.  Being a consultant can be a useful stage of your career.  It is all in what your plans are.

I&#039;m in consulting.  I&#039;m in a career.  Since I&#039;ve been a consultant, I&#039;ve looked for organizations to work for that allowed me to grow and gain necessary experience.  I came to my current company because they offered me a great opportunity to grow.  If that growth potential hadn&#039;t been there, I would have stayed where I was.

The drive behind my post wasn&#039;t that I think independent consulting is bad.  It is more that I think that too many people are doing it, some of whom are no longer gaining anything more from it than a paycheck.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A discussion!!!  Seriously, it depends.  Being an independent consultant can build a solid foundation and makes sense for some.  After a while, you have to ask yourself, &#8220;Am I growing?&#8221;  Only you can truly answer that question.</p>
<p>A career offers some fulfillment in addition to the paycheck.  The focus is not on the paycheck, but looking at the legacy, and the future, that you are building.</p>
<p>I know some independents that used those experiences to build a solid career.  Some have grown their self-owned, independent consultant, companies to actually have others work for them.  Being a consultant can be a useful stage of your career.  It is all in what your plans are.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in consulting.  I&#8217;m in a career.  Since I&#8217;ve been a consultant, I&#8217;ve looked for organizations to work for that allowed me to grow and gain necessary experience.  I came to my current company because they offered me a great opportunity to grow.  If that growth potential hadn&#8217;t been there, I would have stayed where I was.</p>
<p>The drive behind my post wasn&#8217;t that I think independent consulting is bad.  It is more that I think that too many people are doing it, some of whom are no longer gaining anything more from it than a paycheck.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What am I doing?

I&#039;ve been a Documentum consultant for the past 5 years now.  How can I progress as a consultant that do the same things over and over.  I still have much to learn but I&#039;m confidant that I have the capacity and desire of getting where I want.  But like you said, bills need to be paid and we all want to live today not tommorow.

Lately I started to question myself of what could I expect in the future if I stay a consultant.  Where do I want to be in 5 years, what to I want to do, what am I doing today that I still want to do then...  

Do you think that being a consultant is a career or just a job?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What am I doing?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a Documentum consultant for the past 5 years now.  How can I progress as a consultant that do the same things over and over.  I still have much to learn but I&#8217;m confidant that I have the capacity and desire of getting where I want.  But like you said, bills need to be paid and we all want to live today not tommorow.</p>
<p>Lately I started to question myself of what could I expect in the future if I stay a consultant.  Where do I want to be in 5 years, what to I want to do, what am I doing today that I still want to do then&#8230;  </p>
<p>Do you think that being a consultant is a career or just a job?</p>
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