Comments on: Billy Cripe on ECM and SOA http://wordofpie.com/2008/06/10/billy-cripe-on-ecm-and-soa/ Ponderings on Life, the Universe, and Information Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:28:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Ed Wentworth http://wordofpie.com/2008/06/10/billy-cripe-on-ecm-and-soa/#comment-3584 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:45:32 +0000 http://wordofpie.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/billy-cripe-on-ecm-and-soa/#comment-3584 Your comments on this article fit my disappointment well. I am not yet at the door of the Enterprise 2.0 paradigm shift, I am still trying to develop ECM solutions with a strong Service Oriented Architecture. There seems very little discussion of the SOAizing of ECM in the blogosphere. My own meager attempt (http://edlovesjava.blogspot.com) tries to describe how my company is developing ECM-SOA. Enterprise 2.0 is still a bit out of our reach. Let me know if you find any other good articles/blogs on ECM-SOA.

]]> By: Pie http://wordofpie.com/2008/06/10/billy-cripe-on-ecm-and-soa/#comment-3284 Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:59:38 +0000 http://wordofpie.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/billy-cripe-on-ecm-and-soa/#comment-3284 Jazz, I assume you are not addressing the article written by Billy, but this post written by myself. It does make me wonder how closely you actually read the post, much less the article to which it is responding.

You say, SOA is an architectural style. It isn’t incompatible with W2.0 or E2.0!!! I never say that it is incompatible. My point, which you missed, is that SOA and E2.0 are not dependent on each other. You can have one without the other. At no time did I say that you couldn’t have both in the same environment.

My despair is from those that feel they know more than anyone else and run around the web trying to prove it.

-Pie

]]> By: Jazz http://wordofpie.com/2008/06/10/billy-cripe-on-ecm-and-soa/#comment-3283 Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:31:54 +0000 http://wordofpie.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/billy-cripe-on-ecm-and-soa/#comment-3283 Billie, I’ve come across your blog for the first time and I thoroughly despair when I read people like you. Reading this type of post makes me want to abandon computing and take up plumbing! Only in computing can anyone wake up, suddenly become an expert, have a blog and start spouting all sorts of strangeness. Have you ever come across the word architecture? Have you heard the words separation of concerns? If you have, then you probably can understand that a “service”, “component”, “application” (call it whatever pleases you) can have many “clients” or “presentations”, which incidentally, may or may not be human. If you can grasp this concept, then you will understand that SOA is an architecture paradigm that is used to build distributed systems that may or may not contain a presentation layer. When you fatuously differentiate between Enterprise 2.0, Web 2.0 and SOA, do you realise that you are trying to say something to do something akin to differentiating between the architectural plans for a building (SOA) and a new technology for doors and windows (Web 2.0, etc). SOA is an architectural style. It isn’t incompatible with W2.0 or E2.0!!!

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