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		<title>By: Philippe Parker</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2007/09/11/the-ecm-blogsphere/#comment-710</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is even more true in the UK... most of the active ECM blogging &quot;communities&quot; seem to be in North America or the Pacific, so the European focus is a little lost.
This only really makes a difference in two areas:
1. Where we&#039;re discussing substantive issues around compliance.
2. Feeling part of the gang!
Philippe]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is even more true in the UK&#8230; most of the active ECM blogging &#8220;communities&#8221; seem to be in North America or the Pacific, so the European focus is a little lost.<br />
This only really makes a difference in two areas:<br />
1. Where we&#8217;re discussing substantive issues around compliance.<br />
2. Feeling part of the gang!<br />
Philippe</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2007/09/11/the-ecm-blogsphere/#comment-500</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, your doing a good job at promoting dialogue :-)

As you know, I have tried to pull a feed of lots of ECM and related blogs together on pageflakes (www.pageflakes.com/ecm) and have started to emulate you &#039;oh great one&#039; by starting to blog at www.ecm-stuff.blogspot.com  but what your talking about is building a conversational dialogue in a &#039;community&#039; where many of the possible contributers do not actually know each other, and therefore there is an element of trust which is missing. You touched on this in your post, the blogosphere can be unforgiving, even if you do know what your talking about, and this to puts people off too !

As you know, but others won&#039;t, I work for a very large distance learning university, with 200,000 students at any one time, and getting those students to be actively involved in a &#039;community&#039; takes a lot of effort, with Professors designing activities into their classes etc. Just look at AIIM or CM Pro&#039;s sponsored groups in Facebook - not a lot of chat going on in there either. Certainly Alan and co at CMS Watch try their hardest, and there are a number of AIIM blogs too, one focused on standards as it happens - but I am sure that as ECM becomes more central in enterprise IT / information management, then the online community around it will start to gel and become more vibrant :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, your doing a good job at promoting dialogue <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As you know, I have tried to pull a feed of lots of ECM and related blogs together on pageflakes (www.pageflakes.com/ecm) and have started to emulate you &#8216;oh great one&#8217; by starting to blog at <a href="http://www.ecm-stuff.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ecm-stuff.blogspot.com</a>  but what your talking about is building a conversational dialogue in a &#8216;community&#8217; where many of the possible contributers do not actually know each other, and therefore there is an element of trust which is missing. You touched on this in your post, the blogosphere can be unforgiving, even if you do know what your talking about, and this to puts people off too !</p>
<p>As you know, but others won&#8217;t, I work for a very large distance learning university, with 200,000 students at any one time, and getting those students to be actively involved in a &#8216;community&#8217; takes a lot of effort, with Professors designing activities into their classes etc. Just look at AIIM or CM Pro&#8217;s sponsored groups in Facebook &#8211; not a lot of chat going on in there either. Certainly Alan and co at CMS Watch try their hardest, and there are a number of AIIM blogs too, one focused on standards as it happens &#8211; but I am sure that as ECM becomes more central in enterprise IT / information management, then the online community around it will start to gel and become more vibrant <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pie</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2007/09/11/the-ecm-blogsphere/#comment-498</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I appreciate both of your views on the improvement of the blogging arena around ECM.  Summer is probably a stagnant growth period.  That being said, there is a long way to go.

Just for clarification, the standards discussion was an example of dialog, not the driving reason for this post.

As for Standards bodies, I plan on becoming more involved this fall, once my personal life streamlines into a new chaos constant.  So I will hold off on commenting.  However, we shouldn&#039;t just wait for them.  We should push them.  However, this is a topic for another post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate both of your views on the improvement of the blogging arena around ECM.  Summer is probably a stagnant growth period.  That being said, there is a long way to go.</p>
<p>Just for clarification, the standards discussion was an example of dialog, not the driving reason for this post.</p>
<p>As for Standards bodies, I plan on becoming more involved this fall, once my personal life streamlines into a new chaos constant.  So I will hold off on commenting.  However, we shouldn&#8217;t just wait for them.  We should push them.  However, this is a topic for another post.</p>
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		<title>By: leecsmith</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2007/09/11/the-ecm-blogsphere/#comment-497</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting stuff. I started blogging earlier this year so am reasonably new to the blogosphere but I do sense some momentum being picked up. I&#039;ve tried to make some time to look in more depth at XACML following James&#039; comments and come up with some ideas on how we could best adopt within ECM.

There are standards bodies out there for this, in fact these were discussed in many of the blogs, do you think the standardisation cannot be achieved through these bodies?

Happy to discuss offline if you wish to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting stuff. I started blogging earlier this year so am reasonably new to the blogosphere but I do sense some momentum being picked up. I&#8217;ve tried to make some time to look in more depth at XACML following James&#8217; comments and come up with some ideas on how we could best adopt within ECM.</p>
<p>There are standards bodies out there for this, in fact these were discussed in many of the blogs, do you think the standardisation cannot be achieved through these bodies?</p>
<p>Happy to discuss offline if you wish to.</p>
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		<title>By: alan pelz-sharpe</title>
		<link>http://wordofpie.com/2007/09/11/the-ecm-blogsphere/#comment-496</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Laurence - first time commenter - long time reader :-)

I think you have a point - but from my perspective things are getting
better - there are more ECM blogs now that are worth reading. Where it
fall&#039;s apart a little is in the vendor focus. EMC Documentum is covered
well, but beyond this particular vendor there is scant coverage. Would
love to see more bloggers who have experience of IBM Filenet, OpenText
etc etc
I cover 30 ECM vendors in my report (20 in depth) and there is very
little blog discussion about the vast majority.
Just to be contrary though - I would also like to see a lot more
discussion around the practical and business application and
implications of ECM (there is even less on this than the technical
stuff). We try through our CMS Watch blog to stimulate debate - and in
bursts I do so through my own blog (www.doingitbetter.blogspot.com) -
but it&#039;s hard.
All in all though - the picture is quite rosy - don&#039;t underestimate the
value of some of these debates (security &amp; standards for example) they
certainly inform my research at CMS Watch!
Best
Alan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Laurence &#8211; first time commenter &#8211; long time reader <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think you have a point &#8211; but from my perspective things are getting<br />
better &#8211; there are more ECM blogs now that are worth reading. Where it<br />
fall&#8217;s apart a little is in the vendor focus. EMC Documentum is covered<br />
well, but beyond this particular vendor there is scant coverage. Would<br />
love to see more bloggers who have experience of IBM Filenet, OpenText<br />
etc etc<br />
I cover 30 ECM vendors in my report (20 in depth) and there is very<br />
little blog discussion about the vast majority.<br />
Just to be contrary though &#8211; I would also like to see a lot more<br />
discussion around the practical and business application and<br />
implications of ECM (there is even less on this than the technical<br />
stuff). We try through our CMS Watch blog to stimulate debate &#8211; and in<br />
bursts I do so through my own blog (www.doingitbetter.blogspot.com) -<br />
but it&#8217;s hard.<br />
All in all though &#8211; the picture is quite rosy &#8211; don&#8217;t underestimate the<br />
value of some of these debates (security &amp; standards for example) they<br />
certainly inform my research at CMS Watch!<br />
Best<br />
Alan</p>
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